Can Ferrari’s Clever Solution Save The Manual?（原声文稿）

Ferrari have just announced one of their most desirable supercars ever.

And for the rest of the video, manual E, because there's an E on the end of manual.

a manual by wire system.

Nope, I am being told that's to a rocky start.

Now before you immediately get upset by the end of this video, I might convince you that this is not only a good thing, direction. You see what I shift anyways.

And look, I'm on with real hydraulic clutches where the shifter actually transmission.

And so because of that, yes, I have some complaints this.

But ultimately, I think there is a positive have four questions to answer. Number one, how does it work?

by wire system rather than an authentic manual?

disadvantages? Quite a fascinating discussion.

this off with how it works. In principle, its operation is quite straightforward.

pedal, and the gear selector. The transmission is easy.

It's the same it will have an automatic mode which uses all eight forward gears and a gears of the DCT plus a reverse gear.

Eight gears is a they only give you gears one through six.

Now this does mean lower top speed because the 12th cilindry is 100 kilometers cares.

Anyways the transmission is the same eight speed and different manual operating mode, which leads us wire setup, which if hearing that gives you hard palpitations, has been throttled by wire for the past couple decades going brake by wire is increasingly common in modern cars until that third pedal caved and we had a clutch directly, the pressure applied to the pedal is detected and digitally converted with pinpoint accuracy.

Before being transmitted via a by wire system between pedal pressure and the opening of the clutch plates.

So there is a unit which then hydraulically operates the clutch pack within the transmission.

Now a dual clutch transmission as the name implies has dual clutches. So how does this work?

Well presumably as you press in the clutch pedal reaches the floor.

Then as you let out depending on which gear you engage.

So what's interesting here if you're to go sequentially through the open up one of the clutch packs and then as you bring that clutch pedal back up packs as you shift through those gears and then as you press in that control unit will actuate the appropriate clutch as requested.

Honestly as throttle by wire there are really good examples out there right and there are about clutch by wire because you are actually synchronizing your foot mechanical feel.

It's just that now there won't be a hydraulic fluid behind that some extent, sure.

But I think because the clutch pedal is actually operating vehicle. So your body and foot will understand what's happening.

Remember filtered by that hydraulic fluid, which is going to cut down on very fine vibrations.

enough to use a cable clutch, well then maybe you have a complaint here.

by clutch by wire, but what about the gear selector?

gear selector will likely be the most controversial.

that has no mechanical connection to the actual transmission.

It's a little toy box for very wealthy adult children.

gear selector, this is the same idea, but it's probably a bit higher quality.

the position to know which gear you're selecting.

unit, which then chooses your selected gear.

As far as physical feedback, there is a push-pull solenoid.

So there's an actuator providing feedback as you select different gears.

manual transmission vehicles, plot out the lever stroke versus lever force.

feels like shifting a real manual transmission.

how it actually feels, but it is, at the very least, a clever recreation.

gear, meshing with the synchros as you apply more pressure when you know you're in gear.

Like you may be provided with that's actually doing all of the shifting.

So Jury is well enough.

Now as mentioned the car has manual mode clutch pedal in this activates manual mode which changes selector remains in the center position with shifting for you. There's no paddle shifters here.

Now it's worth mentioning pedal out too quickly or you don't give it quite enough throttle, you Ferrari has really made this so that you get the manual experience with the pros and cons depending on how savvy of a driver you are.

kids, you know, switch to auto if they're struggling with the manual.

Okay, so we know how it works, but the next obvious question is why. Like, why?

Ferrari has stated two reasons.

First, they've brought back the manual due to customer demand.

Extremely wealthy people, they're just like us.

to be manual by wire?

Well according to Top Gear's discussion with Ferrari manual transmissions Capable of the torque rating that Ferrari's engines have.

Okay I'm going to support this claim and then tear it apart a little bit.

First of all automatic counterparts.

Take for example the BMW Whether you get the manual or the automatic, it's the exact same engine.

pound-feet of torque because as stated by BMW, the manual transmission is rated for lower torque.

So with that logic and Ferrari's 6.5-liter V12 making 500 pound-feet of torque, maybe a typical manual transmission really is the limiting factor. But I have two counterpoints.

and it has a manual transmission that is capable of the engine's 429 pound-feet of torque and revving to 8,250 RPM.

RPM and more torque going through the TREMAC the highest torque rating that TREMAC sells in a manual transmission.

800 pound-feet of torque, 1,000 horsepower, and 8,600 RPM.

Now the Ferrari revs to 9,500 RPM, so perhaps it wouldn't work in this case.

pound-foot buffer over the Ferrari's torque rating.

From a technical standpoint, I don't see a manual being ruled out.

RPM and it's paired with a manual transmission.

Now it's insanely expensive, but that leads to my second point.

Your Ferrari, saying there's a technical limitation just feels off-brand, right?

Ferrari and in return Ferrari makes some pretty special, pretty wild vehicles.

I drove the 12-cylindry and that V12 is just… not AI.

again, that's just a comment from Top Gear's coverage of the vehicle.

a combination of homologation and economics.

developed, it's already been tested, it's done regulatory tests, and so if you can use the same transmission, regulating headache that goes along with making a car.

these, the per unit cost to develop a manual transmission specifically for this car would be extraordinary.

So very expensive on top of the homologation concerns.

That's my bet on the why question.

Alright, let's move on to advantages and disadvantages.

This is from the eyes of the consumer.

I'm not talking about the benefits or challenges for Ferrari.

And this is actually a really interesting discussion, unlike most of my videos.

Starting with the good news, there are some clear advantages.

though not all, that could damage your vehicle.

Okay, so for example, you can't money shift this transmission.

like an idiot, you try to shove it in 1st gear.

The shifter will mechanically lock you out of doing this.

with the shifter and you're not going to ruin your synchros.

shifter but unknowingly applying some force your gear fork into a rotating collar causing wear.

definitely look as cool as you think you do.

manual by wire system is more aggressive gearing. And now you're thinking, what the heck?

Hear me out. Modern automatics and DCTs are using about 8 to 10 gears.

packed gear ratios with lots of aggressive gears and lots of taller gears.

Say Ferrari were to make this a proper six speed manual.

taller so that the vehicle could reach its design top speed.

other gears would get raised a little bit so everything's evenly spaced.

And modern fuel economy targets are more stringent.

So manuals across the board have gotten taller gears.

And it has a crazy powerful V12.

tall gears whether or not their customers actually visit the track.

system, you're limited to the first six gears of an shorter than they otherwise would have been in a bespoke six-speed, which means you get to hear 9500 RPM all the more frequently.

That is a genuine win for the manual by-wire setup.

And finally, the obvious advantage, you get both an automatic and a manual.

mode Well now you both have a transmission that suits your needs cool that you have both an excellent DCT and different driving experiences in the same car. Okay, what about disadvantages?

I think from a clutch perspective It's not the clutch that bothers me, but rather the gear selector.

is not actually the engagement of the gears, actually matters?

I suspect if you eliminate ego from the enjoyable, very convincing experience.

But still, amount of what it costs to buy an awesome driver's car where the shifting is real.

So the other big disadvantage cost.

Motor Trend estimates the sticker price at $680,000, which is over $200,000 more than the standard DCT 12-cylindry.

spending $200,000 more would prefer the experience to be as authentic as possible.

Though, I don't doubt they'll sell all 1500 of them.

Another disadvantage, it's a software-defined manual transmission.

probably do not prefer software-defined vehicles.

There are benefits to this too, of course.

operates to improve it over time based on customer feedback.

transmission tends to represent within the car world. And finally, latency.

disadvantage without having experienced it, but I do wonder if there is any noticeable latency with the clutch by wire and shift by wire.

Time will tell once folks get behind the wheel of these.

just listed a bunch of disadvantages, but um, yeah I'm still keen.

question, how should enthusiasts feel about this car? And I have two points to make.

First, this is reportedly a nearly $700,000 car. So to me, I'm like, whatever.

price alone means most of us don't really have to care too much, unless this becomes a gateway for vehicles like that one becoming manual by wire.

point number two and I genuinely think this deserves major recognition Ferrari has made a new car slower.

Let me say that again Ferrari has made a new car that is intentionally slower.

Joy will never come from a spec sheet despite how many cars that spec sheet may sell.

They're all chasing crazier and crazier horsepower here and the fastest there. And who really cares?

There are of very mediocre fast cars.

Enthusiast cars in my opinion this specific case, the only reason Ferrari is making course, is to increase driver engagement.

To add more joy expense of performance numbers.

The car has a lower top shift way slower than a DCT ever would while you're What's awesome about this car is that it was made to be more engaging at the expense of speed.

That is something truly worth celebrating. So hats off to Ferrari for making a slow car.

Wait, it's a V12 with it? Any questions or comments? Leave them below.

Oh, and if anyone is curious about how this compares to Koenigsegg's manual by wire system used in their quite fascinating. So I will include a link to that. Thanks for watching!